in fact, one of the very, very positive signs of our meeting was that we were talking specifics. and i think that's always been critical to getting to the place where we land the plane on this policy. >> do you think that was missing actually? >> i actually think folks were very focused on a number and i think the number was a distraction. a number doesn't help people. what helps people is policy. and that's why as new dems we put out specific policy priorities on the child tax credit, on climate, on healthcare and the aca premiums and expansion of medicaid because that's what resonates with people. not a number. and so i think it is very, very important that everyone follow that lead and make sure we talk about the transformative policy we have been working on because it really is about what we can do that has an immediate impact for families, for workers, for our communities. >> congressman delbene, appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thank you. be sure to join us tonight right here on cnn.