joint chiefs of staff, this is myself included, general mckenzie, major general donahue, the ground tactical commander, 82nd airborne division, and the admiral. every sing of us were in a tank. i brought them up. secretary austin did not show up. there's no political pressure, no expectation of consensus. every one of us evaluated the military conditions at the time on the 25th, and we made a unanimous recommendation that we end the military mission in transition to a diplomatic mission. >> thank you. while you temped that you may have had the personal recommendation and i think in your case, general mckenzie, in the fall of 2020 or it might have been general milley, that by the time we're evacuating everyone, that was not a recommendation that you personally held. absolutely not. at that point on the 25th of august, no. >> thank you. >> the 25th of august we recommended the mission end on the 31st. >> thank you for that