vaccine and protect the children below 12 years of age that cannot be protected at this time. >> i'm going out on a limb here. i think the frustration sore follow people and likely yourself included is what we know what needs to be done. we know the vaccine works and vaccine shaming does not work. does not make them want to go get the shot. talking to people they trust does. we know that masks work. in terms of the frustration, we look at where we're at some 18 month into the pandemic and knowing what works and seeing this resistance to it, is there any tool that you could think of that has not been used at this point to help collectively get more people to be a part of this process to conquer this pandemic? >> yeah, that is a tough question to answer. but i'll do my best. i think that it is really all about physicians, especially trusted parties like ourselves. taking an extra five minutes, i see 20 patients aday, erica, and