there were some -- quite a few depositions that were private. but there was a lot of public testimony before the judiciary committee. it was before the senate watergate committee as you'll recall. the president's counsel john dean appeared and testified that there was a cancer on the presidency and a number of other revelation that there was a recording system in the white house. all of that happened in the senate. and the fact is happened in the senate didn't mean the judiciary committee didn't know about it. there's only a few members of this committee that were on the judiciary committee during the clinton impeachment. i was one of them. ms. jackson lee and mr. nadler were as well as mr. sen sensenbrenner and the gentleman from ohio.