the seals as a seal, you were a man. >> yes. >> but you knew internally that inside you were a woman. did you think about this, that women -- that you wouldn't have been allowed to serve as a woman? >> that's a thought all the time. even right now, as a transgender person precluded from many things, there's over 50 states in our country right now that i could walk into my job and be fired on the spot, today. so i'm still fighting for equality for many people. this is one great step for all of us. >> gayle, let's talk about this. you wrote the book, obviously. you also wrote in the "l.a. times" this week that for years women served on the front lines sdpooit t despite the pentagon's ban on women in combat roles. talk to me about where we go from here, because obviously not everyone agrees with this. i was reading about a current seal who said, look,ed this put us in danger. where do we go from here?