members at various levels. when we call it a cartel like it's a company, it's more like a network, a federation of different traffickers. you have people growing drugs people processing drugs, people smuggling into the united states people sending them all around the place. whether he's there or not, that network is still working. and him being out or in won't have a direct impact on the amount of drugs flowing through, but it will have an impact in the drug politics of mexico and the fighting and the violence going on throughout the streets and lives being destroyed. on one side, you have people taking drugs in the united states in mexico, we're talking about a human rights disaster. more than 82,000 people killed since 2007. >> such an important point, really wreaking havoc on both sides of the border. thank you. and we are switching gears now to another top story.