>> it's just terrible. i think everyone that watched it is just sick at their stomach. this was senseless. it should never happen. those police officers should be held accountable. unfortunately, every profession has bad actors. there are bad politicians. there are bad pastors, bad journalists, and unfortunately bad police officers. i think we do need to have a national conversation. we need to make sure we have a national data base because we have -- at least in my area we have a high turnover among police officers and they go -- they're in high demand, obviously there's a shortage of police officers in america. so we need to know that if one police officer's leaving one police force going to another city whether or not they were written up for excessive force and things like that. so we need to be able to share data. but certainly it's something that should never have happened. >> right. and you know, that is something