motivation. where does this come from? and to try the figure out a way to get to this person, to make sure that nobody is harmed, as ed reported earlier, you know, if you listen to the live stream, he goes from saying that he doesn't want to hurt anybody to sort of ranting very uncontrollably and seeming to be quite angry about whatever motivation is. so you know, that's one of the things that they want to make sure is to try to bring this down and to try to have them come out without hurting anybody. >> evan, thank you very much for your report,. stand by as i also bring in cnn national analysts and a former philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey, commissioner, i should say, on what we heard from the colleyville police department. that is their statement that the lead negotiators, the fbi are still in touch with this hostage-taker. also, there are no injuries reported at this time, after five-plus hours with these