excellent interview with stephen breyer, joan, and he didn't want to give a firm answer on that, but like you said, you expect in the spring he could be heading in that direction. joan biskupic, isaac dovere, very important reporting. we've seen the impact recently it can have on this country, and we appreciate your reporting if the republicans take the majority of the senate. thank you both. >> thank you. well, you are not alone. this new wave of covid cases is making many of us anxious. so how do we get through it? john hirschfeld, a specialist in ocd and anxiety disorders, joins us next. centrum.e your immune supporh now with a new look! ♪ ♪ you are my fire ♪