physician, would you still have this viewpoint, this stand against the vaccine mandates? and when you talk to people in indiana in your home state who don't want to get vaccinated, what are those conversations like? >> yeah, i don't think my viewpoint was any different, you know, when i was a practicing physician, whether it's covid or other things that the federal government would mandate. i don't think my position really has changed. when i talk to people who don't want to get the vaccine they just have legitimate concerns about the safety profile of the vaccine even though i've tried to convince people yes, there are isolated cases of vaccine reactions. but statistically the risk of the vaccine is very, very low. and efficacy, whether or not it's effective. you know, some of the break through cases people say, see, you can still get it. well, that is true but you don't get hospitalized and you don't get really, really sick. so both of those things people just don't think it's necessarily going to work for them and they still are afraid