guard searching and looking, helping pull kids out before. it's a nightmare. it was really like hell. it was like hell. people were screaming for their lives. >> it's just awful. is there anything you want to add about your experience and about what you saw at this music festival? >> i just want to say the fault isn't on travis. it's on the organization, the festival, the security. the security was just watching this. they weren't pulling anybody over and helping. some of the security were laughing. like, it was -- >> do you think they fully understood what was happening because it's obviously -- >> they didn't. when i jumped out of the pit to go alert all the other people, they didn't believe me that people were actually dying left and right. what was happening is bigger kids that couldn't help themselves up, people couldn't lift them up. there was a lot of bigger kids