the weeds here. the way that congress gives our authorities, we are able to require performance by the grantee, which is eco health alliance. they had a sub-award to the wuhan institute of biology. we are not permitted to have direct interaction from the sub award. that had to come from eco health. that needs to be changed. we are interested in asking congress to change that, and we're also looking closely at circumstances where progress reports are delayed to see what should be done in that space that perhaps in this instance was not done. so, yes, it's a learning experience for sure. >> why should americans trust you and the nih on the issue of covid origins when you didn't even know about the programs it was funding with taxpayer dollars this china? >> that's a little too strong, pam. we did know exactly what the funding was intended to support in terms of the research on these bad coronaviruses, and the vast, vast majority of what they did was exactly what we had