the beginning of the illness before they have the ability to infect more. it should be ubiquitous. we should have them in the country. we have tests that you can buy at cvs. >> yeah, but they're -- i just was at cvs yesterday, they were out. they were out. >> it's not available. it doesn't help. >> and appointments were out at places. so i said okay, i'll try somewhere else. >> it's going to be more important as we get into the cold and flu season, since we are less masked than we were a year ago, we are going to see more of a flu season than we did last year where we had very little flu. we had so much social distancing and mask wearing, so it will be very important for us to be able it to test and weed out what's just an innocent cold versus breakthrough covid. >> that brings me to my next question, you have the approaching colder weather coming, the holidays where more people are going to be gathering indoors. of course that raises the threat of localized outbreaks this winter. what do you think this upcoming season is going to look like? >> it depends where you live. i think in parts of the united