could have a long-term effect on concert turnout? >> well, i'm trnd that people are going to do it -- jump into it and be unsafe and i -- you know, one of our shows has moved their show to the parking lot, so we could play -- so that we could rock, you know? i mean, it's just we're trying to do all we can. and long-term, i think that eventually, it's going to be back to normal. >> so you do think even though there's a sizable portion of concertgoers who are hesitant right now, you think it will get back to normal. but what is your message to your fans who are still hesitant to get that vaccine? >> i would say, don't do it because teenage bottle rocket is doing or telling you to do it. do it for yourself, do it for your health. do it for your community. and i would say that if you want to see us and you can't see us