early set of strikes. and they were obviously pretty effective because, despite the valid intent to retaliate right away, not much happened. >> yeah. last weekend we had the former defense secretary, mark esper, on. and he said the response from the u.s. to the houthis has not been intense enough. what do you think? does it need to be ramped up? >> well, i think it wasn't intense enough before. i think this -- the package that was put out, the last package, was a good intensive set of strikes. we hit 60 targets. we came back again with a second package, and we hit a radar site we missed later. i thought that was a pretty good package. could it have been done soon senator yes, it could have. but the point is, tit for tat doesn't work here. now, we're not trying to overrun houthi. it's not, as fareed said the other night, he said, if they survive, they win.