conservative party to compete. this is often a very nasty, vicious party. and trump's rhetoric appeals to the large share of republicans who identify with what he says no matter how mean, how vitriolic. so, that's an advantage for democrats in the fall. no matter how unpopular president biden may appear to be in these polls. >> yeah. larry, so -- just quickly, finally, if trump wins by this massive margin that it looks like he's going to win by tomorrow, yes, nikki haley might do well in new hampshire. but what do you see in south carolina? it's hard to see her beating donald trump in south carolina, given the amount of support he has there and all of these other upcoming states. is it too early to say it's over? >> i think it's too early, but i think just about everybody can see the direction in which it's moving. it's interesting because iowa and especially new hampshire may