had not been lied to by this man. i think that's a really telling thing. there's a lot of people in this country who are the victim of mr. trump's lies. most importantly, his supporters. >> scott, what do you think about that? >> yes. he has misled them about this. and there's lots of polling that shows republicans in just a far different place about their perceptions of january 6th and independence and democrats. and so that is going to continue to be the case and i suspect that chasm is going to grow even wider. i'm a political analyst here. to me, the political impact of this is political poison. understand. independents in this country, democrats, people who might otherwise be unhappy with joe biden about this, that or the other, they really do not like anything that happened on january 6th and the explanations in the aftermath to try to rationalize it.