i was just asking matthew chance, is it that much of a surprise that russia was able to confirm that yevgeny prigozhin did, in fact, die in that plane that went down. your thoughts? >> jim, could i just say something first about how sorry i am for the loss of life on the osprey and the people who are still -- and some of them hurt quite seriously. >> oh, absolutely. >> our heart goes out to their families an the families who are about to have a vigil for a neo-nazi white supremacist killing young black people. the juxtaposition of men who were training to go and protect freedom for the people the world over and have someone domestically kill people who are trying to enjo i freedom. now to the issue of prigozhin. i think -- he was either a fool or a fatalist. but he had to know that he was in deep trouble. he called putin a liar. putin called him a traitor.