does that mean trump essentially is right now automatically disqualified, that he shouldn't be allowed on ballots and so on? >> jim, what it means and it's a great hong to be on with the disti distinguished and justly celebrated judge luttig, what it means is that secretaries of state or other officials who are responsible for deciding who is qualified and who is not will have to determine whether despite his obvious attempt to overturn the 2020 election and engage an insurrection, whether despite that, somehow trump gets to run. secretaries of state around the country are going to go both ways on that. the red ones may go one way and the blue another, although i would hope that partisan politics wouldn't always determine it but whichever way they go they'll be challenged in court and that will end up in the supreme court.