and paulson that is forthcoming in a law review from the university of pennsylvania. they're monumentally important and the contribution they have made is that they have demonstrated that what might have been is not, which is to say this, section 3 of the 14th amendment means exactly what it plainly and clearly says, specifically as you just read. >> yeah. >> any person who previously has taken the oath of office to support and defend the constitution of the united states and who then engages in insurrection or rebellion against the united states and