said is not going to take part in the debate. what is your take on that? why is he skipping the debris in your view? >> well, at first i would think that he made the decision he can't effectively campaign and deal with his four criminal cases at the same time, but it sounds like he's got a counterproducing event going on so looks to me like he's just saying i'm more important than the debrate. i think it's a mistake on his part and whether he's there or not, the candidates are going to have to state their positions on what he's done, how we distinguish ourselves so he will be there in abstonentia. >> as you know, authorities in fulton county, georgia, where that fourth indictment was