i understand that. >> what did you want when you said go up there? what would you have dreamed -- >> i would have said that you will show -- not to go in. although they were ushered in by the police. in all fairness the capitol police were ushering people in. they were very friendly. they were hugging and kissing. you don't see that. there's plenty of tape on that, too. the capitol police were -- that's the way it was. but i wanted -- personally what i wanted is what they wanted. they showed up just to show support because i happen to believe the election was rigged. at a level like nothing has ever been rigged before. >> very disturbing. that interview for the explosive new book "i alone can fix it." phil rucker and "the washington post" wonderful carol leonnig