and 17 other states used the election fraud conspiracy to pass laws this year that make id harder to vote according to the brennan center for justice. the voting rights bills i guess right now that are trying to reverse some of this in the senate are dead for the moment. president and others feel like they can come back from the dead. where do you think things stand right now in materials of the efforts across the country that seem to have some of their genesis in arizona? they want to be like arizona. >> right. i'm concerned about it. i really am. i'm generally not too alarmist about most of these things but i am on this one. i do believe this is a fight for our democracy. and i'm against the filibuster in general. to me it is a joke that people act like this is 20 years ago or 40 years or 50 years ago. it is not. it is 2021.