possibility to visit poland. why don't very good friend of mine, very good friend of ukraine, joe biden, leader of the global world who demonstrates now the leadership, why don't he come visit kyiv next week? >> barbara, what's the administration saying about this? i can't imagine that kind of a visit would go over all that well at the pentagon? >> reporter: look, the white house press secretary jen psaki and others are making it very clear when the president goes to europe in the coming days, no indication, no plan. look, he is not going to go to ukrai ukraine. that is every message the pentagon is delivering. remember, of course, people might recall previous presidents have gone to war zones. afghanistan and iraq. very dangerous for them. but a big difference in those cases.