before they turned 5. now that's 0.07%. so that's been brought about by vaccines. so when mr. trump basically is advocating, it's a return to medieval times. make america medieval again. it's really unbecoming and nonsensical. americans live to almost 80 years old because we embrace science not because we refuse science. >> yeah. seems to have been fairly effective. look, the debate ideologically over mandates, knock yourself out. the vaccine pretty proven, laid out in detail so many times. dr. riner, thanks, as always, my friend. >> my pleasure. coming up, why one gop congressman is now trying to offer canadian protesters asylum in the u.s. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." ♪ i put my armor on, show you how strong i am ♪