typical slogans we heard out of president trump and other acolytes and that's what he's preying on. >> do you think if youngkin wins this race that this starts to pave the way, starts to clear the path for donald trump to run for another term in office? what worries you about that? >> absolutely. i think this is a bellwether. just the way we considered a recall in california, a bellwether if larry elder had won that one, then we would be talking about probably a different set of circumstances and a different environment. but this is another critical moment. if a trump acolyte wins in virginia, a purple state that's moving in the direction of progressive, moving in the direction of frankly progress, not progressive, just in terms of progress, being more inclusive, more representative. and there's a reversal there, i think that sets the template. i think we need to defeat glenn youngkin because he is a trump supporter, he represents trump's