decades, male rockers have been writing about women and they don't understand where the talk about the way women look, but they don't really understand what's going on in their heads. i mean i'm sure you know that we listened to a lot of rocks. i'm doing. that person doesn't really get me. they only the sort of seeing the outside tell us what yets guys. >> i think that's what's so terrified are some menn listen to her because not only does she have the talent to write about the human experience chest specificity in terms of the menn she's talked to and knows and writes about them in unflagging unmercifully detail. >> and that's what so scary, an interesting and fascinating. and also her vocabularies keeps expanding and you look on this album, she is use words like saboteurs and aesthetic and dopamine and senate file. and impressionist, an empath words you don't necessarily here on top 40 songs. taylor swift cadbury's broad and deep. >> that all gets into her music. >> i concur on that. they were words i was like, you don't usually hear some of this word choice in other songs, but yeah, it's, it's pretty