that happens in the judge has the options of first imposing a fine and a fine is not going to do much for donald trump to deter you want with the punishment deter the conduct you want to punish, but also deter the conduct a finds not going to turn because he'll just go to his maga base and raise the money to pay a fine, but it is the first step. and then this judge is not he's not someone who's just going to have that donald trump take control the courtroom. that's not going to happen so that is the next step up and the next step is and it's right in the new york code is imprisonment. he can be sentenced to jail time. and is that entirely possible? of course, it is. >> so if if there is this indirect contempt and outside of the view of the judge, and then there's direct contempt if he acts out in the courtroom. the judge is not going to have any option but to have a jail cell telling to bring the toothbrush and maybe that will get through to mr.