for this huge ecosystem value that the system is provide for us every single day. and it will change how we think we can make it change. how we do business. >> so then in your view, what, what are the biggest threats to these ecosystems right now? >> the biggest threat to these ecosystems of first of all, that we don't value them when we don't recognize what they do for us and after that, we're looking at how we treat them because we don't recognize them. so let me give you an example. if you think today of how cities expand or how real estate develops, the first thing that happens is we look at engineering we take away the landscape we put in an engineered structure and then, we put back the landscape. this can change it to say, what is the value of that ecosystem that's there? how do we align with that ecosystem to give us more benefits great livelihoods. and of course, investors that all, all important return on investment, we can literally changed the way we protect our planet. and that in turn will benefit are resilient and ourselves to the