domain. >> and georgia isn't unique. i mean, there are 30 other states that have also have rico laws. it's not that this is a real anomaly, but there are 30 other states doing the same thing, which all bramnches from the federal law that you mentioned. do you expect while the former chief of staff mark meadows is trying to make his appeal that the charges really should be handled in a federal court with this law in place, what are the chances he would get that request honored? >> i think meadows probably has a stronger argument than trump or anyone else because he's claiming he was working as the chief of staff of the president. trump is going to argue -- >> but he was on the phone call, that perfect phone call that was the springboard to all of this.