sure it's a narrow band of evidence only relevant to the charges. they have a lot of wiggle room here. they can try to bring in a lot of misconduct that is not actually charged, quote, unquote, so that they can portray the full amount of the misconduct, and that may really go toward their real audience. >> who is the real jury in an impeachment trial? we know it's the senators, but how much of a factor is the public? >> i think the public in this instance is the real jury. i think the senate is a foregone conclusion which way they're going to come out, barring something really unforeseen. so for the democrats here, besides doing their constitutional duty of prosecuting the impeachment, they need to get the word out to the american public to show the full problem with this president. and in so doing, they probably won't affect the diehard cadre of trump devotees, but they