proposes something different. care for all who want it. we're seeing him talk about his ability to bring people together and talking about drawing sharper contrast with his competitors. he's talking about generational change, noting he's the young candidate in the race now, but saying to voters if there were looking for an alternative to joe biden or warren, he's the person who could potentially do that and one more thing, fred, here in iowa, we're hear iing a lot more from buttigieg about barack obama. he's drawing those comparisons, really leaning into them because in 2008, when barack obama won this state over hillary clinton who was then a better known, more politically seasoned candidate, that catapulted him into the top tier and the rest of the remaining contest. that's exactly the momentum b t buttigieg wants to tap into here in iowa, fred. >> let's go to layla santiago now follow iing the warren campaign. warren is hosting a pair of town halls today, right, and how are