shooter. you can't get all of the civilians out of the area, block it off and then attempt to negotiate with the shooter or interdict them. in this instance, i go back to your point earlier with ryan. what was the point here and whether or not there was a second shooter. that has to be paramount for law enforcement. i listened to the entire press conference. i walked away with a lot of questions. but then again, i don't have all the answers that law enforcement does. they are going to conduct ballistics tests. when they do that, they'll test internal ballistics, external ballistics, termial ballistics. what makes that hard to your point, when you have a running gun battle or someone shooting across 20 miles between odessa and midland, it makes it difficult to collect the projectiles. that's going to make it really hard, brooke. >> and just to remind everyone, they were chasing this gold car as he was shooting and driving and ultimately hijacked this postal truck and the woman has