evangelical, i don't know. but he says it, and there's repetition. and as we look at the polling, he's not taking a big hit every time. i mean, it seems, right now, we're seeing an incremental drop in his lead as it pertains to iowa and ted cruz. but some where he finds and is seeing it's somewhat effective because this is his style and he's maintaining that. >> the more same people like brian call it garbage, the more the conspiracy people think well, gee, it's proof it musting true. all of the same people disavowing. here's the great irony, right? we always think of iowa as a place that's an evangelical state on the republican side, you have to be -- you've got to be right with god in order to do well there. trump employs this truly diabolical strategy. you know what? it may well get him enough