much of an endfr is it to get a submersible that low to determine whether it is a ship? >> that's deep. it's certainly not routine and requires the right technology and the curve -- that's the robot technology they plan on sending down. it's an excellent vehicle. if it's operated by phoenix international, who i believe they are, working with, they know how to do it. but if it's anything but routine, as they said, three miles of water. you've got to have everything working with you to do that right. indicative of the wreckage of "el faro," how is anything retrieved? >> yes, i think, first of all, fredricka, they will probably do as much -- we call it mapping. they will be taking video and high-resolution stills documenting that it is "el faro." i'm pretty sure that it's likely