permissiveness, the pope hadn't gotten too mump into that. we just saw the ceremony part of the meetings with raul castro and pope francis. now we're going to move on to the substance part. you see the two men walking alone. a continuation of a series of meetings that deal with progress in cuba, progress between the united states and what pope can do. also the thanks and the continued cooperation with respect to columbia because the negotiations there and the audience should know are going on here. this the safe harbor. they've had hits and starts. the pope referred to them in his mass. to finish up the point you were making you said there's a division in his own church. let me bush back in terms of