appearing nice, appearing lawful. this is, the strategy's going to continue, and i think we're papering things over when we suggest there's rebels, or that pro-russian separatists, they're russian pros, mixed in with the pro-russians. >> miles, i wanted to ask you. we heard from the transport minister in malaysia earlier today saying there were 75 different airplanes that flew over this route in the two days prior to us taking this route, but a lot of people look at this and say, this is a conflict zone. why was ukraine, i'm wondering, allowed to keep this airspace open? >> well, we should also point out that there's were quite a few airlines, scrupulously avoided this area. british airways, and air france among them. who for months have not flown anywhere near there. this is an interesting question of who's responsible for the airspace? the airspace was closed from