high-spirited person. nothing bad about him. >> ray, let me ask you, when you heard the allegations in court about the text messages and the, the 16 and then became 17-year-old girl, what was going through your mind, saying, this is a good kid, from what you know? what were you thinking? >> yeah. i was thinking -- i still was thinking that, this just is not the ross that i know. and if he did that, i don't know, but i still don't believe that ross is capable of doing that, in my mind, in my heart, no. not ross. >> keith, do you know leanna at all? and if you do, can you help us, you know, get to another her a little bit? >> excuse me? >> keith, do you know leanna at all? >> i don't know her. i've seen her, like, one time. like, a long time ago, when