verified verified i wouldn't put too much stock in it yet. let's see what the evidence shows. >> mary of course officials want the black boxes. how difficult will that be to retrieve phlegm the plane? can you walk us through the process? >> sure, if the images they have indeed are of the plane and it's the fuselage and the tail part of the fuselage -- it's not right in the very tail but toward the back of the fuselage, if it's still intact, the black boxes should be there, both the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recording. if that's the case, they don't have to do all the things that we heard about when we watched in malaysia airlines 370. they don't have to have towed pinger locators and all of that. they can go right to the black boxes and get them. that will not interfere at all with the recovery of the human remains because they will know right where they are even if the plane has broken apart there. for example, say the breach in the fuselage was there. black boxes should not be too far away. they're fairly heavy, they would