>> they found the paperwork, they absolutely did. >> okay. because some other sources that showed that the plane left at the normal time. so perhaps -- okay i will defer to you. it's hard to imagine how you get 100 plus people to all show up at the airport two hours early in the pre-dawn. >> some of the passengers said they missed the flight because they didn't get the e-mail in time because the airline sent out an e-mail saying the flight had been moved up two hours. the other thing, i know air travel is growing at an explosive rate in asia. lots of planes in the sky. that means there's not enough experienced pilots or air traffic controllers to go around. do you suppose that will be part of the investigation? >> well, that's certainly something a lot of people have brought up. indonesia does not have a good record for air travel. many carriers are banned from traveling to the european union, for instance, the largest carrier, lion air, is banned from traveling to the european union. however, airasia is a very different case. it's considered very well managed, has a spotless record. now, has this effect flowed over