charlie's father on nancy grace's show and she told him that they had found his son hiding in the basement and his emotions seemed very, very real. how do you equate that with the extreme disciplinarian and this seemingly loving father on television? >> well, a disciplinarian can be very loving. it depends on how they define ho love. this pattern of discipline could be generational and might be what he was taught was acceptable. there are a lot of things up in the air in this situation but there are so many situations i've seen over my 20 years where people as parents love their kids so much that they lose their objectivity on what's in their best interests. they justify it was good enough for me so it's good enough for them, even though there are issues the parents have that they deny and can't see beyond their blindness. >> so jane the stepmother has been arrested on unrelated weapons charges and sitting in jail right now. what are police trying to do?