for so many years. i can't say i totally understand your life, but having been there once, i promise you, i'll try." wouldn't that have been simple and much more honest? because let's face it, money does change everything! let's talk about that. we have a macro economist for the heritage foundation as well as jason johnson, contributor for hln and political science professor at hiram college. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> thank you. >> good morning. okay, so, celine, does money change everything? >> so, people in power are always going to be able to find people with money who are willing to make a deal, and that's why power is dangerous. so, as long as we have an executive who can regulate the entire economy at will -- >> no, that's not what i'm asking you. i'm asking, if you become wealthy, does it change you? does money change you as a person? >> i don't know. i've never been rich, but i do think the comments that you read at the beginning of the segment