guest said, the courts would take too long. so we're trying, again, in the senate to put witnesses in front of the american people in part so they can also make a judgment about what happened here. so -- it says a lot -- >> what about coloradan cory gardner? >> i haven't been able to talk to him about it in the last couple of weeks. so i don't know where he is but i do think it's going to be very hard for some republicans to vote against having some witness testimony as part of this discussion in the senate. >> over this past weekend senator bennet, you told a town hall, assuming facts don't change, that you will vote to convict president trump. is that first of all still the case? has anything changed in the last 24, 48 hours? >> the only thing that's changed is he's underscored the fact he has absolutely no idea what he did what he did was wrong, which is staggering to me. i mean, if any ceo in america had done what donald trump has