aggressively presided over this. wants to be as low as possible. >> you never know. >> you never know. >> the senate runs the impeachment trial. roberts will preside. again, you're right. never know for sure but he is certainly not going in there with the idea he's going to run it like judge judy. it's going to be -- >> you know mitch mcconnell very well. senate majority leader. is he -- he could okay theoretically as majority leader a trial in the senate where joe biden is forced to testify, where hunter biden is forced to testify. any number of individuals republicans want to hear from, adam schiff theoretically. chairman of the house intelligence committee. what is his inclination, do you think? >> i think this his inclination agree on a set of rooming tules clinton impeachment. unanimous vote and then the