so i think that's because right there is the tension between john bolton's long held principle that the president has the authority to do whatand his looked like a potentially illegal operation. that was being run out of the white house. so that is the tension you see. my hunch is when he will do what he needs to do and say what he has to say but won't go beyond that or undermine the presidency itself. >> this is the quote in case people don't remember. not only did he call rudy giuliani a hand grenade he called out sondland and mulvaney saying he was not part of whatever drug deal and sondland and mulvaney are cooking up. to your point, he doesn't name check the president, do you think that is foreshadowing if and when he testifies or is subpoenaed, doesn't excite executive privilege, that is more or less what he'll say? that it wasn't the president?