director at southern illinois university in carbondale and todd good to see you again. i mean, to me this was one of the most noteworthy parts of the night. right? that incoming, a huge target on her back. curious. did you think those attacks were successful chipping away at senator warren xpexposing her y have value ferabilities? >> i do. it wasn't the attack but the answer senator warren gave. one area -- yeah. one area i think that her intellect works against her. senator warren is smart. everyone knows she's well researched and well-read and does have a plan for most things. for her on a debate stage it becomes even more obvious when she simply is not answering the question. she's too smart. she understands the question. she's just not answering it. that's the problem. >> hmm. what about cory booker? senator booker? gone from questioning joe biden's fitness to now this over