i would pick them up at 4:30, get them there to the house by quarter to 5:00. nine times out of ten he would open his door and say just hand them to me here. he just doesn't sleep. >> what newspapers was he reading? >> let's see. he read the local paper, which would have been the post, "the new york times" the two rags from new york. >> okay. >> i can't think of the names of it. >> so he was taking this in each and every morning at 4:30 in the morning. >> oh, my gosh, yes. >> i read at one point, you tony had to go under the knife. this speaks to your relationship with him. was it a heart operation? what happened? tell me what he did. >> oh, yes. it was. it was a heart operation. he called the hospital the night before i went under the knife. he said when are you going under? and i said tomorrow. and he said, well, if you don't make it, tony, you've had a good