>> you can't defend this total revers reversal. >> katie, calm down. >> please, people, let's be polite. >> the only time we're questioning what's presidential is when it comes to donald trump. >> that's not at all. we're questioning every single one of them. >> it seems as if it's a right of passage that presidential candidates have to go on "ellen" and dance. is that presidential? for our president to dance on "ellen"? >> i'm not asking anyone to dance. >> not sure how we got on that. >> we're talking about what's presidential and not presidential. >> he's sort of the poster child for lack of presidential. >> we're talking very important issues. these are issues that are germane to to being president. he brought up isis. he he also brought up immigration. this is some sound.