that was really traumatizing. i've never seen anything like that in my life. and it just really broke my heart to watch it. we've heard about his reputation, and we've heard that he's a really -- i don't want -- yeah, i guess i can say dangerous man to get involved with. on that level. so when he came in the classroom, i immediately told my classmates, get your phones out, get your phones out. i think this is going to go downhill. and it did. >> let's discuss. with me now former prosecutor and civil rights attorney charles coleman and also with us marvin thompson, a ceo and president of lighthouse education and foundation and former principal of the now closed charter school featured on blackboard wars on oprah winfrey's network in new orleans. gentlemen, thank you for joining me. charles, let me just turn to you. i read your piece in the root. wufrn of the questions you ask is similar to what we heard from the sheriff, that being, you know, he's really going to look into wlornlt the school resource