with me is the executive director of the national association of school resource officers and criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor carmon st. george. so welcome to both of you. mo, you oversaw school resource officers for 12 years. i just want to begin with you. you have seen the video and the two different perspectives. your reaction? >> my first reaction comes with a comment. our national association sok south carolina is one of the states we're not allowed to train because the state conducts their own training. . so i can't speak to how the officers are trained in that situation. but one of the questions in my mind would be what brought this about. the part we're not getting to see is everything that happened that led up to this. so there's two lines of thought. was it a criminal act that occurred that brought the sro sbo the environment or was it a school discipline situation? in that case, if it were a